01-18-2010, 11:04 AM
I think that the problem comes actually from the moderators. I want my point to be understood by them.
The moderators should NOT WASTE TIME to explain to the users how the things should be, or what attitude and behavior the users should have in the forum. It is much better that they "waste" this time for editing/deleting posts. The unnecessary things should be removed without a lot of explanation. There are rules, these rules are much more simple than the rules in the real life, and because of that they are very clear and should be strictly followed. The Forum should be easily readable by the readers. There is this "Discussion/Suggestion" branch, and the discussions should be here.
If the moderators are trying to explain, re-educate and so on the users, this creates the problem. There is no need for that, it is a complete waste of their time, and leaves bitter taste in some of the users, as we can see here.
To Solution: You are not person here, my friend. Nobody is person, the moderators too. This is not a forum which meets people searching friends, and nobody needs to make ANY IMPRESSION to anybody. I don't care who is the moderator, I don't care who are the users - we will never meet each other.
And, I just want to add some things like conclusion (I will exit this discussion):
1. About the language, I think that the plus of this forum is that you can see contributions from the while world, this is its only difference from the other forums. There are country forums where you can find much deeper discussions, rare software, country's specific things etc. These forums are in the national language of that country. And this forum is the place where you can see some things copied from those 'national forums' - THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE. For example you can find here some Russian civil engineering regulations IN ENGLISH! In any Russian forum you can find a lot of these, but in Russian. So the form is of benefit of those users, who know only English, and don't know the local language. The English is quite elementary and tolerant language, and you see nobody laughs here if somebody can't use it properly. This is not the case for the national languages. So lets keep it in English, and if somebody wants deeper discussion, and more specific things - he can use his national forum.
2. About the religion, I will be short: the forum is for civil engineering, not for prayers, pilgrims, preachers etc. There should be somewhere in the Internet forums for the problems of those people, I hope.
3. Just remove the avatar option from the forum, and you will not have problems anymore (to the moderators).
The moderators should NOT WASTE TIME to explain to the users how the things should be, or what attitude and behavior the users should have in the forum. It is much better that they "waste" this time for editing/deleting posts. The unnecessary things should be removed without a lot of explanation. There are rules, these rules are much more simple than the rules in the real life, and because of that they are very clear and should be strictly followed. The Forum should be easily readable by the readers. There is this "Discussion/Suggestion" branch, and the discussions should be here.
If the moderators are trying to explain, re-educate and so on the users, this creates the problem. There is no need for that, it is a complete waste of their time, and leaves bitter taste in some of the users, as we can see here.
To Solution: You are not person here, my friend. Nobody is person, the moderators too. This is not a forum which meets people searching friends, and nobody needs to make ANY IMPRESSION to anybody. I don't care who is the moderator, I don't care who are the users - we will never meet each other.
And, I just want to add some things like conclusion (I will exit this discussion):
1. About the language, I think that the plus of this forum is that you can see contributions from the while world, this is its only difference from the other forums. There are country forums where you can find much deeper discussions, rare software, country's specific things etc. These forums are in the national language of that country. And this forum is the place where you can see some things copied from those 'national forums' - THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE. For example you can find here some Russian civil engineering regulations IN ENGLISH! In any Russian forum you can find a lot of these, but in Russian. So the form is of benefit of those users, who know only English, and don't know the local language. The English is quite elementary and tolerant language, and you see nobody laughs here if somebody can't use it properly. This is not the case for the national languages. So lets keep it in English, and if somebody wants deeper discussion, and more specific things - he can use his national forum.
2. About the religion, I will be short: the forum is for civil engineering, not for prayers, pilgrims, preachers etc. There should be somewhere in the Internet forums for the problems of those people, I hope.
3. Just remove the avatar option from the forum, and you will not have problems anymore (to the moderators).