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I believe the copyright marks and text placed on every sheet are meant to scare or give confidence in authors professionalism.
In the busy world of practicing engineers I guess copyright is not what is meant. At least for a small company or individual.
Obviously big players like Arup, Alstom, Veritas... have an army of lawyers to protect their sheets . And even make money in this fashion.
My common issue:
I do some technical surveys/reports of existing structures.
I use only the existing drawings provided by the client (client doesn't pay for on site survey).
Most buildings with problems have messy drawings, what a surprise.
My report is based on what I believe is the latest edition so it can be denied/questioned if not.
After I play detective, I attach to my report (disclaimer) the relevant existing drawings.
Some don't have drawing number or title or revision, but have copyright claims like: don't store, copy, photograph, borrow, modify, transmit, transfer, adapt... bla bla bla.
For the disclaimer to work I make an exact copy (including the copyright notice ), at smaller scale though.
So am I doing something legal or not?
Europe interests me, but write about your region too. At first look it's illegal I should redraw the "work of art".
If the client and initial designer end up in court my report gets there too.
My second not so common issue:
If a contractor receives drawings with don't copy claims, he has to request more copies from the designer?
Recently I found the opposite:
I also found these but where to read for free, the European law, or some sort of guide, is it like free beer:
Also here:
Some process:
The [18] appeal is dismissed with costs. means appellant lost, which means that copyright process was lost by the those who started it.
There was some nice article about US laws but I can't find it.
Regards
I believe the copyright marks and text placed on every sheet are meant to scare or give confidence in authors professionalism.
In the busy world of practicing engineers I guess copyright is not what is meant. At least for a small company or individual.
Obviously big players like Arup, Alstom, Veritas... have an army of lawyers to protect their sheets . And even make money in this fashion.
My common issue:
I do some technical surveys/reports of existing structures.
I use only the existing drawings provided by the client (client doesn't pay for on site survey).
Most buildings with problems have messy drawings, what a surprise.
My report is based on what I believe is the latest edition so it can be denied/questioned if not.
After I play detective, I attach to my report (disclaimer) the relevant existing drawings.
Some don't have drawing number or title or revision, but have copyright claims like: don't store, copy, photograph, borrow, modify, transmit, transfer, adapt... bla bla bla.
For the disclaimer to work I make an exact copy (including the copyright notice ), at smaller scale though.
So am I doing something legal or not?
Europe interests me, but write about your region too. At first look it's illegal I should redraw the "work of art".
If the client and initial designer end up in court my report gets there too.
My second not so common issue:
If a contractor receives drawings with don't copy claims, he has to request more copies from the designer?
Recently I found the opposite:
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Quote:Whilst copyright law protects original architectural drawings and plans as literary works, it does not protect the ideas and concepts embodied in them. This is known as the ‘idea/expression dichotomy’.So the drawing is protected as a painting but not it's contents.
Quote:The copyright owner has the exclusive right to copy the work, issue copies of the work to the public, perform show or play the work in public and make an adaptation of the work, or do any of the former in relation to an adaptation
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Some process:
The [18] appeal is dismissed with costs. means appellant lost, which means that copyright process was lost by the those who started it.
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There was some nice article about US laws but I can't find it.
Regards